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  • 23 May 2017 5:10 PM
    Reply # 4848541 on 4666394
    Dave Cason (Administrator)

    Hi,

    Does anyone have that issue of QST?  I'd like to get a copy of the article to build one as well.

    Cheers' Dave


  • 22 Mar 2017 2:40 PM
    Reply # 4683809 on 4666394

    A couple more points on the options for connecting an aviation headset to a hand-held radio. The Icom aviation radios usually come with such an adapter and it is sold seperately. https://www.radioworld.ca/ic-opc499

    There is also an article in QST April 2010, pages 65-66 on building such a device. I made one to connect an aviation head-set to a Yaesu FT817 and it works just fine. 

    Ian 

  • 20 Mar 2017 8:50 AM
    Reply # 4677968 on 4666394

    Thanks, everyone - I've received some great feedback about this topic - both on and off line. Some of the key points:

    • For UHV/VHF operations, a standard handheld with a standard rubber ducky antenna should work fine (thanks VE6MB!). So getting airborne and operating on 2m and 70cm should be pretty straightforward.
    • Little airplanes are loud and its tough to hear the standard speakers on a handheld in flight, so it's best if we can find a way to patch the handheld into an aviation headset (thanks VE6IXD!). I have an aviation headset with a standard audio-in jack designed for listening to music, etc., so probably a simple patch cable could solve the problem. We could probably experiment with different mics to see what works best with the handheld. 
    • It's also probably possible to patch the handheld output into the aircrafts intercom for monitoring (see the eHam article from NA6M) ... my understanding is there is some impedance-matching that needs to be done, and the general aviation audio-in jack is a little unusual, but overall this shouldn't be too difficult of a project. Not absolutely necessary given the headset option (above). A slightly more advanced project would be to create a PTT patch cable to use the aviation headset to transmit via the handheld as well. 
    Looking at my flying schedule, I have a long flight booked on Sunday, April 9 - my plan (weather permitting) is to fly southwest to Nelson via Elk Valley and Cranbrook, then north to Revelstoke and then back to Calgary via Golden and Banff. If the weather is poor in the mountains, then the plan would be to fly East to Regina or Saskatoon and then back to Calgary via Medicine Hat. 

    Is anyone interested in tagging along and trying some VHF/UFS ops along the way? It gives us a little bit of time to try and work out something with the handheld and the headset. 

    Let me know, regards,

    Chris
    VA6KC

  • 15 Mar 2017 9:14 PM
    Reply # 4669387 on 4666394
    Deleted user

    I've operated from small aircraft before (helicopter) as a passenger. If you're looking to operate on VHF/UHF.....you shouldn't need anything beyond a hand-held radio and the "ducky" antenna on it. At altitude, you can get tremendous range (maybe 300+ km). So no special antenna arrangement required. HF would be a challenge due to the larger antennas required (even if you limited your operation to QRP 5W)....and, as you say, difficulty getting approval to modify/mount/use the antennas....

    Tino, VE6MB


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  • 14 Mar 2017 12:39 PM
    Message # 4666394

    (I posted this in the "Projects" forum a while back, but it didn't generate much traffic, so I thought I'd try again here in "General"...)

    - - - 

    I'm a new private pilot, and as I'm working toward my additional ratings (instrument rating, commercial licence, etc.) I need to "build time". So I've been flying a number of cross-country flights (mostly Southern Alberta and British Columbia, but I'm planning trips to Northern Ontario and also the Arctic this summer) in order to keep building my flight hours. 

    I always take my VHF/UHF handheld up flying with me, but for obvious reasons (I'm flying the airplane!), I don't operate it in the air. But it seems to me that actually operating in the air using handhelds - or other smaller rigs that are suitable for, eg., SOTA - might be kind of fun. Rigging the antennas can be a bit of a challenge, I imagine, as it'd all have to be "inside the plexiglass" on the rental aircraft that I fly, but nevertheless it seems to be entirely do-able, as was suggested in this recent Reddit r/amateurradio thread:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/amateurradio/comments/5hshzf/for_those_of_you_who_have_gone_aeronautical/?st=IWLL64XG&sh=31c06d63

    Found an old eHam thread about this kind of thing, too!:

    http://www.eham.net/articles/10144

    (Maybe once I get my own airplane I can see about getting an AME to sign-off on additional external antennas or something). It might be nice to have an interested club-member come along on some of my flights to operate in the sky. So, if you're interested, drop me a line and I'll let you know what my flight schedule looks like and maybe we can try to operate air mobile - couple of hours in the air trying to pick up repeaters might be fun?

       - Chris (VA6KC)


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